Naja was die ersten Preise angeht ob nun Glücksrad Bandit oder sonstiges, kann ich wiedersprechen das diese nur 1x täglich ausgeschüttet werden, einer bei uns aufm server (86-89) hat 2x 80 Ay fragmente gezogen an einem tag(Bandit). Konnte dadurch das er diesen schon hatte direkt 4 Sterne machen.

wieviele drehungen hatte er gemacht? insgesamt und nicht nur bis er *2* ay gezogen haben soll

Just FYI rigging Events for certain People should be one of the easiest Things to do in Code, as Long as you have the unique Key for the specific Person, in this case that would be the UID i believe.

Even changing the chances regarding of Money spent on the specific account would be not to hard.

IMPORTANT: just because it's possible it doesn't mean that the Events are rigged. Coding is a powerful tool and like every tool humans have, the way you handle it determines if it's considered bad or good.

uff da frag mich was besseres xD, allerdings kannste ihn ja gerne mal fragen. Malpercio s88^^

Hatten die neuen Server auch den einarmigen Bandit?

Sashimi ist Deutscher^^ Er hat nur englisch mit Ari geschrieben

Oh ok da war der text schneller formuliert als ich nachdenken konnte :D

My claims were all directly related to what I knew to be true, which was the EN Side of things. I don't know anything about DE staffers, nor would I make such accusations.

On EN, if someone posts tables or draw information, they censor it. Not so much anymore, but previously, it was really really bad. I once got in big trouble for giving out the Tendo Super Rare Draw totals to players back when I was a moderator.

As far as Feedback, you can discuss things all day long. We have Game Liasons ( Seems to be what you call Server Coordinators ) who give detailed reports every week. We have the inner staff ( Moderators, Myself, and Devs ) that discuss the things, but most of the discussion falls on deaf ears. Even when your feedback would greatly improve sales, such as in the Fishing events that are just... the worst things ever, it changes nothing.

So you are left with 2 logical conclusions:

1: They don't care at all.
2: They can't change anything, in which case there is no point to having the conversations, and feedback in the first place.

As far as Top Players getting interrogated, I did not make that claim. Another Youtuber said that Game Liasons were going to people asking them personal information, such as what they did for a living. I know nothing of that, however it was my job specifically to get feedback for heavy cashers. For the most part I left the #1-10 players alone, because they are probably going to buy whatever is new anyway, and I never asked any interrogation style questions.

Events being rigged... Well, its true. The game was designed that way from the beginning, and what we are getting are old CN versions of events. I posted the conversation I had proving that it was true. Additionally, they make more money a number of ways.

Events are gated to provide added bonus chance to lower spenders. This makes lower spenders feel like there ingots are worth a lot, making them top up more. It also makes higher spenders see the pulls, which are broadcast for the entire server, and creates jealousy. I find it hard to believe that as long as DE has been operating, you haven't noticed that pattern.

As for personal attacks...

I find it extremely ironic that you give me advice about what I "should have done" then you personally attack me as well. Whatever the german version of the pot calling the kettle black is...

You are a Server Coordinator. You are so far removed from the inner circle that you have no idea what goes on. That QQ chat your in, has what, 50 people? 100? Well, guess what? There is another one with 10 people, 5 of them being developers. That is where the real conversations are had.

Myself, on the other hand, have been at the top of EN for nearly a year. I have poured hours and hours of my life into trying to improve the game, often times ending in arguments because the developers honestly have no business sense what so ever. I proved on the stream that they think players are happy, when there are hundreds of posts every day about people being unhappy. They don't read the forums. They don't listen to the feedback provided by the 300 or so "Server coordinators" we have, they don't listen to the Moderators, they don't listen to super mods. It is like pulling teeth to get change. Simple things like posting events more then 2 hours before maintance, or making posts that aren't generic copy and pasted boilerplate garbage people see through. Making a constructive video wouldn't have changed the result.

You may not like me, and I can certainly be a ***hole a lot of the time, which is fine. But if you want to sit here and tell these German players that everything is fine... Well, that isn't working very well for Oasis right now. Denying, ignoring, placating aren't going to fix the problems. Addressing them will. As I said previously, I am 100% fine with being banned. If it even enacts a SLIGHT bit of change it was all worth it.

The word Defame means to damage the "Good reputation". That isn't what Oasis has. I am sorry that I am disrupting your community, but people were upset long before I came here. I didn't have anything to do with DE, and yet there were 20 pages on this thread before I even posted, after making a video about a entirely different version of the game. If you think people here are happy... You are delusional.

Finally, the worst thing Oasis did was ban my personal account for posting a video on youtube they didn't like. They could have gotten over the other stuff, gotten ahead of the video response, posted about every issue people had, and moved forward. Instead, what they gave the players was validation in my ban. Instead, they chose to deny everything even after multitudes of proof were shown live on stream. Now, we have dozens of players charging back thousands of dollars a day. The total, just from what I have heard from personal messages, is over 100,000$. Likely to be much, much more now that other popular youtubers are doing the same thing and making videos about it. That is a costly lesson to learn. All they had to do was listen to players, and respond like human beings would.

If Oasis was such a good company, would any of this be happening? Do you really think me and my 1000 subscribers had the power to make this happen?

Well, didn´t you say "I have the utmost respect for DE-Naruto Online"?

What changed your mind?

I'm gonna continue to write in english, so Ari can understand too and as I see, many of you are capable to understand :D
As many of you read my previous post (http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com/de/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=3564&pid=30534&fromuid=336 | only german, sorry), I don't exactly agree with everything Ari said, since some things don't apply to our version.
But many things are similar. Of course, I don't blame our coordinators or mods for this, they do a good job here (unlike most of the US ones) but it's quite understandable that our mods need to brush off Ari's arguments and proofs. Nothing to worry about.
But this just gives me more stuff to think about. Many of our players aren't that happy and if I believe Maximus statement that they talk a lot about this in the QQ-chats, then okay. But it hasn't really changed much. Of course, the power-sorted sage world-battle is in work. But how long did it take for them to notice? And I bet like $500 that they will change it back to level-sorted because power-sorted means that our big spenders will fight against eachother and that means more effort and maybe they won't make the first place anymore. And since Oasis is money orientated and the big spenders are complaining, they will change it back because that means more money.
Yeah, all of us know that this game is mostly for money making and not for the F2P people. But they make like what, 70% of the game? then we have like 20% of casual spenders and 10% of big spenders. And if the F2P players are gonna quit, there is no one to farm for the big spenders at the sage world-battle. Meaning they will start complaining.
And this is part of what Ari means. We need to care for our F2P players or else they will just quit, leaving a lot of arguments and complaining behind.
And no one can tell me that every F2P player here is happy. How often did I read in our world chat that they don't want to do the sage world-battle anymore because the big spenders "hunted" them, giving them no chance to even score for the third place.
Now I can already hear the people "but the one who spends more, wins". Of course they do. But what if they can only battle player who have their power-level? Then the big spenders are gonna complain. But I already said that. And I also said, that this is only a small part of what is wrong. Our F2P players get screwed over, even the just casual spenders like myself. Every sage world-battle I'm getting frustrated and sometimes I just want to rage quit because my winning streak was just destroyed by a big spender who gets first place again and I'm over here like "wow, I'm at 6th place, better than last time!". And now tell me how this is gonna work in the long run, when players get frustrated. "The one who spends more, wins". This is the only argument that I always hear.
I'm gonna follow the forum for a bit when the power-sorted sage world-battle is released but I'll give it a month and it's gonna be back at level-sorted because money.
And I think I wrote too much (again), I'm sorry but it's just that I like this game. But I don't want to be screwed over by this money making. And it's just important for people to realize. Even though like 70% don't even care because it all happened in the US. I just hope that some people think about some stuff.

Ich hab mir jetzt auch alles mal angeschaut und muss sagen ist echt unter aller Sau was Oasis da macht. Ich für meinen Teil bin fertig mit dem Game. Gehe lieber wieder zu Spielen über die die Community net so verascht und man mit echtem Skill was bewirken kann.

Zuletzt bearbeitet von f.m***@freenet.de um 28.3.2017 14:35 Ich lach mir immer einen Ast ab weil die Leute alle denken, dass sie mit ihren Romanen hier irgendwas bezwecken würden. :D
Schon vor vielen Monaten hab ich das Thema so ein bisschen angeschnitten und gemeint, dass die Community überhaupt kein Mitspracherecht bei irgendwelchen Dingen hat weil es den Chinesen einfach nur am Arsch vorbeigeht und wie groß war der Aufschrei als die Leute hier nicht akzeptieren wollten, dass sie nur Schaufensterpuppen sind? Naja, macht man. :D

Nur weil Moderatoren und Koordinatoren im Koordichat darüber diskutieren, was im Forum steht und welche Ideen und Wünsche die Community hat, heißt das nicht, dass es bei Oasis genau so läuft. Des Weiteren bekommen wir nicht kommuniziert, worüber nachgedacht und besprochen wird. Man sieht nur was geändert wird und das waren bisher nicht viele Sachen, das Eremitenschlachtfeld ist jetzt die erste große Änderung und selbst hier werden böse Zungen behaupten dass die Änderung nur kam, da es in CN auch kam, weil niemals überhaupt kommuniziert wurde, dass darüber beraten wird ob man das Eremiten KKbasierend macht oder nicht. Wir bekommen hier nichts mit, wir erhalten keine Fragen auf unsere Antworten, Bugs werden nicht gefixt, Tickets gelöscht, wir bekommen nichts kommuniziert aber Maximus soll sich hinstellen und sagen: Dass ihr Ninjas wie Matrosenanzug und Shikamaru nicht sehen könnt, weil ihr keine Fragmente für sie habt ist ein "Special Feature".
Auf viele Fragen die das Spiel betreffen weiß Maximus selbst keine Antwort, Fragen die schon so lange offen sind, um die ich in mehreren Threads um Aufklärung gebeten habe, aber es passiert nichts... wie, bitte sag mir, wie soll die Community zufrieden sein? Ganz unabhängig davon ob Events nun vorherbestimmt sind oder nicht gibt es genug andere Probleme. Aber alles was Oasis versucht ist:
1. Sachen unter den Tisch kehren
2. Probleme nicht ansprechen
3. Andere Dinge versuchen zu ändern/ansprechen zu lassen, damit andere Probleme vergessen werden


Und zu der EN Geschichte: wie Ari ganz schön sagte: Unter den Tisch kehren ist nicht aber das ist das was Oasis scheinbar versucht. Anstatt sich zu äußern und mit Beweisen Ari zu entkräften sagen sie: Aber der ist böööse, der hat uns erpresst! Selbst wenn! Ändert das nichts an dem was er Oasis EN da entgegen wirft!

Besser als 20 Posts hintereinander zu machen, oder? :)

I totally agree with you in every single Point. Especially the Point about the rigged events, because i experienced this by myself. After i started playing again and bought some ingots, i got Hashirama from the Lucky Board event. And in Addition on my server only weak Players reveived that hashirama. People will sag its no evidence, but it is very suspect.
But sometimes i feel many People try to ignore the fact

Ganz genau, ich stimme dir dabei zu. Aufgrund der unterirdischen Kommunikation zwischen Oasis direkt(also nicht den Koordinatoren oder Moderatoren) bleiben wir Spieler in Dunkeln und wissen nicht,was geschieht. Dies sorgt für eine große Intransparenz ( siehe Tsunade Bug) und auch für Anschuldigungen, welche meiner Meinung nach gerechtfertigt sind.

First off, about the pot calling the kettle black: Imho telling a grown man he is behaving like a child is a far way off from basically calling somebody you barely know an asshole and other (worse) things, but since you are continuously teabagging us either way, I might as well just start brewing that shit up.


As for your claims not being about the DE team: I know that you have clearly stated multiple times that what you claim is only true for the EN version. But for anybody with the slightest understanding of human behavior it would be clear that if you say terrible things about one part of a group, this might reflect poorly upon the rest of said group. Granted, this isn't your fault and you can't really do much about it now that shit has hit the fan, but for the love of god, why did you have to start posting in the DE forums as well? Nothing that happens here will affect you in any way and you posting here again and again just makes it seem as if you were involved in the DE community even more. Most people who got mad over your video won't read everything that is being said here or in some cases if they do, they might not understand most of what you are saying. They will see you posting here and they'll think the DE team is somehow involved in your mess.

but for the love of god, why did you have to start posting in the DE forums as well? Nothing that happens here will affect you in any way and you posting here again and again just makes it seem as if you were involved in the DE community even more.

I told him. I translated him a comment so that he knows that is going on in the german version, so he is not at fault here, I am. And I don't care at all, to be honest.

People here were unhappy before. So it's not him who leads us against Oasis, it was Oasis itself since months. Please don't forget this ever. If they are really working on changes and try to satisfy us it would be awesome if they'd communicate it with us.



but for the love of god, why did you have to start posting in the DE forums as well? Nothing that happens here will affect you in any way and you posting here again and again just makes it seem as if you were involved in the DE community even more.
Why shouldn't he answer? We talked about him. We talked about what he said. Maximus said he tried to blackmail Oasis what is huge. So why shouldn't he answer?